Brian is on vacation this week, so Benedikt is joined by Peter Suhm of Branch. Peter and Benedikt talk about the history of Branch, how Peter got into building software products, as well as his experiences with Tiny Seed. 

Brian is inching toward being ready to start pitching his prototype to customers and Benedikt is feeling a bit uneasy about Userlist's trial conversions.

Benedikt is excited about an expensive purchase while Brian is ironing out the last kinks in the onboarding flow of his new product. 

Benedikt gives an update on his time at MicroConf Europe and Brian thinks there's a similarity in bootstrappers' perception of markets and our inability to grasp the size of the universe 🌝👽

After giving a short update on their past week, Brian and Benedikt talk about Ryan Singer's book Shape Up. 

Benedikt is back from vacation and Brian is closing in on finalizing the functionality for his "Remote Work Doesn't Have to Be Lonely" prototype.

Brian is joined by special guest Derrick Reimer while Benedikt is on vacation. Brian & Derrick get meta and talk about the pros and cons of doing a "Built-in-Public" Podcast.

Brian makes good progress on his new product and Benedikt is finally done with researching how to implement in-app messages for Userlist. Inspired by Brian Casel, we also wonder how to make the podcast more interesting to listen to. 

Benedikt is feeling overwhelmed by a big list of small tasks. Brian continues to look for insights to address the problem of isolation and loneliness that many remote workers face.